"My donator status that I had for years , set by Chaplja or Khaplja how you preffer calling him is gone. I send money to him 2 or 3 times, don t remember exactly about the 3rd, but about first 2 I m positive and I have proofs like my paypal emails, logs from irc with Chaplja and so force. Things that can be easily exposed here, if some admin likeYCN Marcus would not delete this journal and ban me once again so easily. Well, another interesting fact is that I had a conversation with Chaplja today on irc :
[12:47] <unforgiven> khaplja maybe you can tell me why is my account status on tzac changed from donator to registered member ?
[12:48] khaplja is webchat@chaplja.users.quakenet.org * webchat.quakenet.org/
[12:48] khaplja on ?#?tzac? ?#?et? #3on3.et
[12:48] khaplja using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
[12:48] khaplja is authed as chaplja
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[12:48] <khaplja> unforgiven: nothing to do with me
[12:48] khaplja is webchat@chaplja.users.quakenet.org * webchat.quakenet.org/
[12:48] khaplja on #tzac #et #3on3.et
[12:48] khaplja using *.quakenet.org QuakeNet IRC Server
[12:48] khaplja is authed as chaplja
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[12:48] <khaplja> i have never removed anyone’s donator status
[12:48] <DARKI> who are the damn tzac admins dammit
[12:48] <unforgiven> why don t you put it back, if someone else removed it?
[12:49] <khaplja> it’s probably just another decision made by people that took over my project
[12:49] <unforgiven> so I was right assuming marcus did this
[12:49] <khaplja> unforgiven: because they removed my access to the server long time ago
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[12:49] <unforgiven> You did a big mistake when you associate yourself with ycn
[12:49] <unforgiven> ycn is marcus and marcus is a THIEF by definition
[12:49] <khaplja> they were fine
[12:50] <khaplja> however, they stopped being fine
[12:50] <unforgiven> fine? he removed my donator status over some personal vendetta you call this fine?
[12:50] <khaplja> like i said, they WERE fine
[12:50] <unforgiven> khaplja why did you gave up in the first place? and if you really felt like giving up with you gave all your work to them instead of just closing and shut it down as you wanted in the first place?
[12:51] <unforgiven> why*
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[12:51] <khaplja> i didn’t give my work to them
[12:51] <khaplja> they stole it
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[12:52] <unforgiven> than why dont you sue them?
[12:52] <unforgiven> as much as I remember there is a statement in tzac saying all this property belongs to tomislav
[12:52] <khaplja> waste of time and money
[12:53] <khaplja> trust me, they won’t be running it for a long time or if they do, it won’t have any purpose
[12:53] <khaplja> i’ve released a client with completely disabled detection reporting
[12:53] <khaplja> they can’t do anything to fix it, unless someone is working on something based on the source code i released, in which case i’ll break it again
[12:54] <unforgiven> why dont you brake down the website take back the admin rights ban them all cut their connection to the site and shut it down for good? I don t want to think I send money for you and now not even this can be recognized because some trash faggot like Marcus had removed it
[12:55] <khaplja> because I don’t do stuff like that
[12:55] <unforgiven> than everything y ou did also everything you do know is pointless
[12:56] <unforgiven> first: you try doing a good thing, somehow somebody steals it from you, now you trying to brake down that thing but doing it wrong. Also you don t give a **** about my money, you disrespect my work and my time as well by this
[12:56] <khaplja> how am i disrespecting you?
[12:56] <unforgiven> if somebody steals something from you , 2 things can be done: you steal it back or you go to the cops
[12:57] <unforgiven> I donated 2 times as much as I remember because I believed in you. Now you throw all this away by not doing anything
[12:57] <unforgiven> Not even a single post on crossfire about this side of the story coming from you. Not even that…
[12:57] <khaplja> unforgiven: this is not a case for court and i certainly don’t plan on wasting both time and money on such a thing, if that equals to disrespecting you, then i guess i am
[12:58] <unforgiven> Than somehow you knew from the beggining this could happen and you never cared? So bassically I send it money to you for nothing. Is this faire, or right ?
[12:58] <khaplja> unforgiven: and I certainly don’t plan on posting on crossfire
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[12:58] <unforgiven> SEE? my ****in point exactly
[12:59] <unforgiven> you don t care about anything, but I cared about you and your work the moment I decided to send the money.
[12:59] <khaplja> unforgiven: yes, I always knew that could be possible, but sometimes you simply have to believe people who are helping you, taking risk of them changing their mind
[12:59] <unforgiven> you think going back to coding cheats will make justice?
[12:59] <khaplja> unforgiven: no, and i certainly don’t plan coding cheats for ET
[12:59] <unforgiven> you should have told me that before I send the money over
[12:59] <khaplja> if that bothers you
[12:59] <unforgiven> you just said you made a code which is untraceable by tzac
[13:00] <unforgiven> what is that if not a cheat?
[13:00] okkim is ~okkim@89-166-44-124.bb.dnainternet.fi * mikko
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[13:00] <khaplja> well yes, i rendered tzac useless
[13:00] <khaplja> that sort of equals to developing cheats as it allows people to use any cheat without worrying
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[13:01] <unforgiven> Is funny that you waste time on this
[13:01] <unforgiven> but u r not willing to waste time in doing at least one of the many things right to do
[13:01] <unforgiven> first I hear you have a total different side of the story
[13:01] <unforgiven> Marcus pretends that you gave up and vanished so ycn took over to keep et alive
[13:01] <unforgiven> you pretend they stole it from you
[13:01] <unforgiven> dont you think people have a right to know this specially those who donated?
[13:02] <unforgiven> and I m not saying it just because Marcus deleted my donator status, but because you know it very well, that this the right thing to do
[13:03] <khaplja> unforgiven: YCN stole TZAC from me, they didn’t decide only to keep hosting it while i was gone, they decided that i should not have any access to it anymore
[13:03] <unforgiven> who knows about this I m asking you? Noboddy
[13:03] <txino> ycn stole tzac?
[13:03] <txino> what?
[13:03] <unforgiven> at least the people on cf doesn t know
[13:03] <unforgiven> make a post on cf, and if they delete it, that will proove you are right
[13:03] <unforgiven> because that means they got something to hide
[13:04] <khaplja> unforgiven: you’re talking about a community where 90% of members always flamed me with nonsense
[13:04] <khaplja> unforgiven: i won’t be discussing things on crossfire
[13:04] <unforgiven> they flamed but it was not 90 %
[13:04] <unforgiven> maybe 50%
[13:04] <khaplja> enough
[13:04] <unforgiven> and this is a whole different thing
[13:04] <unforgiven> because the general ideea on cf is that you dissapeared and gave up and they saved tzac
[13:04] <unforgiven> this is what they was told
[13:05] <unforgiven> do you have any proofs to back up your story?
[13:05] <unforgiven> any logs, screenshots, anything?
[13:06] <khaplja> no, it was a few months ago, i don’t screenshot failed attempts to login into system i had access to before
[13:06] <unforgiven> failed attemtps to login into system is a proof something is not right, why would they remove you in the first place?
[13:06] <unforgiven> have you tried talking to them?
[13:06] <khaplja> maybe i can find some conversation logs, but why?
[13:07] <unforgiven> because if you are not willing to stand up for yourself I will
[13:07] <unforgiven> give me all u got, I will make a youtube video and post it on cf/fb cf comunity
[13:07] <khaplja> unforgiven: i don’t need a lawyer
[13:07] <unforgiven> I m not a lawyer, but we talking about my ****in money here
[13:08] <unforgiven> you don t care about my money but I do
[13:08] <unforgiven> I worked hard for those ****in euros
[13:08] <unforgiven> I want my account as it was or at least I want to show one more time what a **** this marcus is
[13:08] unforgiven is actually Elite1162@96.8.118.16 [96.8.118.16]
[13:08] unforgiven has been idle 21secs, signed on Mon Aug 05 11:27:07
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[13:08] <khaplja> if i could, i would give your status back
[13:09] <khaplja> but on the other hand, i wouldn’t remove it either
[13:09] <unforgiven> obvioussly you can t , but you can give me the logs
[13:09] <unforgiven> I asked you if you talked to Marcus about what happend
[13:11] <unforgiven> well?
[13:12] <khaplja> i don’t keep logs
[13:12] <unforgiven> wow…
[13:12] <khaplja> actually, i may have some on laptop from skype
[13:12] <unforgiven> give it to me
[13:12] <khaplja> later, i’m not on laptop right now
[13:13] <unforgiven> archive it, upload it somewhere and give me here on irc link to it, via pm
[13:13] <unforgiven> I expect you do it today khaplja
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[13:13] <unforgiven> also, is there anyone else from the old school who worked on tzac that can confirm this?
[13:13] <unforgiven> like foxdie for example?
[13:14] <khaplja> no
[13:14] <unforgiven> can foxdie log in to the tzac ?
[13:14] <khaplja> unforgiven: if you think i’ll be spending my time to prove to you that i’m right, you’re wrong. i don’t mean to disrespect you, you did help the development and i told you what happened
[13:15] <unforgiven> Proove to me , but more important to proove to the comunity, and in the end to proove to yourself man
[13:15] <khaplja> if i find something, okay - if i don’t, for me that’s okay as well, because i won’t be bothering myself with finding traces of what happened
[13:15] <khaplja> unforgiven: i don’t have to prove to myself anything
[13:15] <unforgiven> you do have, we all do
[13:15] <khaplja> that’s your opinion
[13:15] <unforgiven> moments like this in life, when we need to stand up for what is right is not just words
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[13:16] <unforgiven> if we decide to turn back to everything we believe , things that we worked hard for and let others walk way free that means we don t care about us in the first place
[13:16] pazi is ~tomczypol@91.227.77.202 * …
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[13:16] <khaplja> unforgiven: that’s your opinion
[13:16] <unforgiven> you played basketball right?
[13:16] <khaplja> no, what?
[13:17] <unforgiven> heard you played, maybe it was false
[13:17] <khaplja> i will do what i have to do, and that definitely is not explaining myself to a bunch of crossfire kids
[13:17] <unforgiven> not all of them are kids
[13:17] <unforgiven> look
[13:17] <khaplja> unforgiven: i’m talking about mental level, not physical age
[13:18] <unforgiven> listen man…I need you to trust me on this one. Just send me what I asked for, you can find 10 minuts to search that up. And let the rest to me, and believe me, it doesnt matter how many, if just 5 ppl will know and understand the truth is a win situation
[13:18] <khaplja> unforgiven: you should start reading with comprehension
[13:19] <unforgiven> sen me the skype stuff, read this with comprehension
[13:19] <unforgiven> you own me at least that much
[13:20] * Disconnected
Session Close: Fri Aug 16 13:20:25 2013
If you have the patience to read it all, you going to notice that he claims that Ycn Marcus stole the entire project, and cut him loose , cut him any connection to the website and so force. I dont know if there is true or not, because I m still trying to convince him to give me the skype logs that he claims he has, but have you ever wondered how come after Ycn took over Tzac there was no admin from ycn iddleing in the #tzac channel? Something happend between this 2 and as I know what this faggot Marcus is capable off, I m pretty sure Khaplja has a strong point in this. There is no logic in just dissapearing without a trace and abandon the project without a single word. You have a brain of your own, at least I hope you do so think for yourself.
Conclusion : Still waiting for the skype logs between Marcus and Khaplja and I really hope I ll convince Khaplja to give it to me.
Also, don t believe the hype ! Don t be a sheep , be a wolf ! Marcus is a sheep dressed in wolf clothers. Is individuals like thim that in this i net world as well as in the real world makes our lives so difficult.
edited 2013-08-17 12:30:05